Have you ever met someone in a fleeting moment and instantly sensed there was a deeper conversation waiting to happen? That is precisely what happened when I met Grantley Morgan at Thinkers50 in London.
It was my very first time in the city, and there he was, tucked away in the corner, trying to enjoy a quiet bite before the next wave of conversations. Of course, I walked right up to him, probably catching him mid-chew, and within minutes, we were deep into a discussion about the kind of leadership people return to when the world around them feels uncertain.
In this episode of Becoming Unshakable, Grantley and I explore a theme that leaders often overlook. Reliability. We talk about it as something steady, almost quiet, yet absolutely foundational. Grantley calls it positive predictability. That grounded presence where people know how you show up, they see the bar you hold for yourself, and they trust that your intentions match your actions. He describes how this connects with a second trait that leaders often talk about but rarely live consistently. A personal quality bar that never drops, even when pressure mounts.
Our conversation moves through the realities of consulting culture, the pressure to prove yourself, the temptation to rush, and the personal work involved in shifting from competition to curiosity. Grantley shares moments where he pushed too hard, went too fast, and learned the hard way about the limits of carrying everything alone. His honesty around pressure, emotional regulation, and the need for shared accountability invites all of us to rethink how we use our influence.
What I loved most was the way he frames leadership through clear intention. The idea of stepping away for fuel, stepping back for perspective, and stepping forward once curiosity returns. The way he holds failure as a sign of courage rather than incompetence. And the reminder that reliability has nothing to do with being safe or dull. It is the quality that lets people take bigger risks because they trust the leader beside them.
Grantley left me thinking about the future of leadership and how each of us can create the conditions where our teams thrive. What would happen if reliability and excellence coexisted more often in our workplaces? What would it change about how we show up, how we collaborate, and how we carry our own emotional load?
I would love to know what this conversation brings up for you. Which part resonates with your own experience of leading or being led? Share your thoughts with me.
About Grantley Morgan
Grantley Morgan is Head of Brand, Research and Innovation at EY Lane4, a workforce transformation consulting division of EY. With 10 years’ experience advising public and private sector clients on workforce strategy, Grantley now shapes the CHRO agenda by creating thought leadership on leadership, learning, culture, and teaming. Grantley’s current focus includes helping organisations unlock performance through AI-enabled transformation and adaptive leadership. Grantley offers research-backed perspectives on how senior leaders can navigate complexity, redesign work, and build resilient, human-centric organisations. He regularly speaks at leading universities including Oxford and Cambridge.
Mentions
Connect with Heather on LinkedIn
Subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts
Listen to the podcast on Spotify
Connect with Heather
WHEN YOU’RE READY, HERE’S HOW WE CAN HELP:
Engage your people with work culture consulting: https://employeefanatix.com/
Hire Heather to speak to your group: https://www.heatheryounger.com
Access free Art of Caring Leadership resources: https://heatheryounger.com/kit/
Let’s connect on social
About Heather R Younger, J.D., CSP
Heather R Younger, J.D., CSP is a highly sought-after speaker, 2x-TEDx speaker, diversity, equity and inclusion strategist, and contributor to leading news outlets. She is also the Founder and CEO of Employee Fanatix, a leading employee engagement and consulting firm. After over 25,000 employee engagement surveys and years of working with organizations to transform employee engagement, here’s what Heather has seen over and over: When you know how to listen, employees will tell you exactly what they need to bring their full selves to work. Book Heather to speak at your event or organization.
Visit heatheryounger.com or https://www.cmispeakers.com/heather-r-younger for more details.